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	<description>a boombox is not a toy</description>
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		<title>By: Dev Blog AF83 &#187; Blog Archive &#187; Veille technologique : Microsoft, Organisation, Ruby, Rails, PHP, Langages, Sécurité</title>
		<link>http://blog.fligtar.com/2009/06/19/one-size-doesnt-fit-all/#comment-147144</link>
		<dc:creator>Dev Blog AF83 &#187; Blog Archive &#187; Veille technologique : Microsoft, Organisation, Ruby, Rails, PHP, Langages, Sécurité</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 23 Jun 2009 15:19:33 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>[...] http://blog.fligtar.com/2009/06/19/one-size-doesnt-fit-all/ : ce billet montre clairement l&#8217;absence totale d&#8217;objectivité dans le comparatif précédent [...]</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>[...] <a href="http://blog.fligtar.com/2009/06/19/one-size-doesnt-fit-all/" rel="nofollow">http://blog.fligtar.com/2009/06/19/one-size-doesnt-fit-all/</a> : ce billet montre clairement l&#8217;absence totale d&#8217;objectivité dans le comparatif précédent [...]</p>
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		<title>By: Staś Małolepszy</title>
		<link>http://blog.fligtar.com/2009/06/19/one-size-doesnt-fit-all/#comment-147111</link>
		<dc:creator>Staś Małolepszy</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 23 Jun 2009 07:41:26 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>This is hilarious! Great post.</description>
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		<title>By: @F1LT3R</title>
		<link>http://blog.fligtar.com/2009/06/19/one-size-doesnt-fit-all/#comment-147003</link>
		<dc:creator>@F1LT3R</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 21 Jun 2009 21:42:09 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>oops tags got stripped... i meant to say &quot;audio, video and canvas too&quot;</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>oops tags got stripped&#8230; i meant to say &#8220;audio, video and canvas too&#8221;</p>
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		<title>By: @F1LT3R</title>
		<link>http://blog.fligtar.com/2009/06/19/one-size-doesnt-fit-all/#comment-147002</link>
		<dc:creator>@F1LT3R</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 21 Jun 2009 21:41:10 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>@AndersH re: new features as add-ons....

I wondered if you feel this way about features like ,  and  too?</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>@AndersH re: new features as add-ons&#8230;.</p>
<p>I wondered if you feel this way about features like ,  and  too?</p>
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		<title>By: Ian Thomas (thelem)</title>
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		<dc:creator>Ian Thomas (thelem)</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 21 Jun 2009 21:23:39 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I think you&#039;re generous giving IE 2/15.

I&#039;d give them a yes for Firebug - although the functionality is not exactly the same they are similar tools and both have their advantages.

But I&#039;d change the definition of IE Tab to &quot;Supports use of competitor&#039;s rendering engine&quot;, for which they would get a no.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I think you&#8217;re generous giving IE 2/15.</p>
<p>I&#8217;d give them a yes for Firebug &#8211; although the functionality is not exactly the same they are similar tools and both have their advantages.</p>
<p>But I&#8217;d change the definition of IE Tab to &#8220;Supports use of competitor&#8217;s rendering engine&#8221;, for which they would get a no.</p>
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		<title>By: AndersH</title>
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		<dc:creator>AndersH</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 21 Jun 2009 11:21:54 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>&gt; my personal opinion is that most new features of web browsers today should be implemented as add-ons and not as core features.

I agree. As an example, I found it strange that the new location bar wasn&#039;t an add-on (installed by default). I seem to remember that one of the thing that was touted when IE was released was that it was build using com-components that could be reused and upgraded. If you squint, you might say that add-ons was taking this further and adding upgrade functionality and letting the user, not only the original developer, replace the components.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>&gt; my personal opinion is that most new features of web browsers today should be implemented as add-ons and not as core features.</p>
<p>I agree. As an example, I found it strange that the new location bar wasn&#8217;t an add-on (installed by default). I seem to remember that one of the thing that was touted when IE was released was that it was build using com-components that could be reused and upgraded. If you squint, you might say that add-ons was taking this further and adding upgrade functionality and letting the user, not only the original developer, replace the components.</p>
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		<title>By: @F1LT3R</title>
		<link>http://blog.fligtar.com/2009/06/19/one-size-doesnt-fit-all/#comment-146855</link>
		<dc:creator>@F1LT3R</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 20 Jun 2009 15:04:50 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>&quot;Knowing the top speed of a car doesn&#039;t tell you how fast you can drive in rush hour. To actually see the difference in page loads between all three browsers, you need slow-motion video. This one’s also a tie.&quot;

Wait... what?!

1) &quot;Knowing the top speed of a car doesn&#039;t tell you how fast you can drive in rush hour.&quot;
     a) It does if your car only goes 2mph.
     b) If browsers were cars and rush hour was 6-8pm on Comcast, then Microsoft are saying the top-speed of your browser is not important when network traffic sucks. Actually it matters more because a browser is an interface and not a delivery method, and the quicker your interface can display the information the better the experience in a slow environment.

2) &quot;To actually see the difference in page loads between all three browsers, you need slow-motion video.&quot;
     a) So THAT&#039;S how Microsoft are measuring the speed of their browser... video!!! Explains a lot.
     b) No. You do not need slow-motion video. You need to use high resolution timer functions, which IE does not have.
     c) Didn&#039;t they ever think of loading the same page 10,000 times to check the diff? Oh... crash!

3) &quot;This one’s also a tie.&quot;
     a) It&#039;s only a tie in your mind. You can take that to mean whatever you wish.

I wonder if they actually did any testing. From the sound of it... they loaded Bing.com in IE and said... &quot;Oh that was quick!&quot; and then closed IE, opened Firefox, and loaded Bing.com again... and said... &quot;Oh that was quick too!&quot;... and after doing the same thing with Chrome, they decided they were all so damn quick to load Bing.com... that they got a video recorder to time the difference. Upon finding a 25-frame difference in the video-footage when slowing it down, -they failed to realize that each frame was approximately 33 milliseconds, which means their load time was slower by almost a whole second. If you visit only 1,000 pages a day, that&#039;s 16 minutes of your day spent waiting for a browser that was designed to load like a traffic-jam.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>&#8220;Knowing the top speed of a car doesn&#8217;t tell you how fast you can drive in rush hour. To actually see the difference in page loads between all three browsers, you need slow-motion video. This one’s also a tie.&#8221;</p>
<p>Wait&#8230; what?!</p>
<p>1) &#8220;Knowing the top speed of a car doesn&#8217;t tell you how fast you can drive in rush hour.&#8221;<br />
     a) It does if your car only goes 2mph.<br />
     b) If browsers were cars and rush hour was 6-8pm on Comcast, then Microsoft are saying the top-speed of your browser is not important when network traffic sucks. Actually it matters more because a browser is an interface and not a delivery method, and the quicker your interface can display the information the better the experience in a slow environment.</p>
<p>2) &#8220;To actually see the difference in page loads between all three browsers, you need slow-motion video.&#8221;<br />
     a) So THAT&#8217;S how Microsoft are measuring the speed of their browser&#8230; video!!! Explains a lot.<br />
     b) No. You do not need slow-motion video. You need to use high resolution timer functions, which IE does not have.<br />
     c) Didn&#8217;t they ever think of loading the same page 10,000 times to check the diff? Oh&#8230; crash!</p>
<p>3) &#8220;This one’s also a tie.&#8221;<br />
     a) It&#8217;s only a tie in your mind. You can take that to mean whatever you wish.</p>
<p>I wonder if they actually did any testing. From the sound of it&#8230; they loaded Bing.com in IE and said&#8230; &#8220;Oh that was quick!&#8221; and then closed IE, opened Firefox, and loaded Bing.com again&#8230; and said&#8230; &#8220;Oh that was quick too!&#8221;&#8230; and after doing the same thing with Chrome, they decided they were all so damn quick to load Bing.com&#8230; that they got a video recorder to time the difference. Upon finding a 25-frame difference in the video-footage when slowing it down, -they failed to realize that each frame was approximately 33 milliseconds, which means their load time was slower by almost a whole second. If you visit only 1,000 pages a day, that&#8217;s 16 minutes of your day spent waiting for a browser that was designed to load like a traffic-jam.</p>
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		<title>By: @F1LT3R</title>
		<link>http://blog.fligtar.com/2009/06/19/one-size-doesnt-fit-all/#comment-146853</link>
		<dc:creator>@F1LT3R</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 20 Jun 2009 14:30:45 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Hahahahaha! IE rocks.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Hahahahaha! IE rocks.</p>
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		<title>By: Andrew S</title>
		<link>http://blog.fligtar.com/2009/06/19/one-size-doesnt-fit-all/#comment-146821</link>
		<dc:creator>Andrew S</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 20 Jun 2009 09:19:58 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>False advertising anyone? Absolute scum they are.</description>
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		<title>By: Highway of Life</title>
		<link>http://blog.fligtar.com/2009/06/19/one-size-doesnt-fit-all/#comment-146788</link>
		<dc:creator>Highway of Life</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 20 Jun 2009 02:22:16 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Another interesting thing to note is that if it really does contain &#039;all those features&#039;, are they not admitting to bloat-ware? I don&#039;t want everything and the kitchen sink in my browser, which is why I *choose* browsers like Safari and Firefox over IE8. It makes them faster. :)</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Another interesting thing to note is that if it really does contain &#8216;all those features&#8217;, are they not admitting to bloat-ware? I don&#8217;t want everything and the kitchen sink in my browser, which is why I *choose* browsers like Safari and Firefox over IE8. It makes them faster. <img src='http://blog.fligtar.com/wp-includes/images/smilies/icon_smile.gif' alt=':)' class='wp-smiley' /> </p>
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